I'm bored so...
I thought I'd tell Khaldorn that he is just like the others never understood that when I said we could have wiped you out it wasn't about killmails.
QUOTEI for one, wish we never had killmails. People get far too concerend with them, and as shown by Majaraw (famous for the we could have wiped you out quote... oh deary deary me) its used by people to judge success and failure. Which is utter shite, as its no measure of either really.
(Quote forwarded to me from some Ushra'Khan board)
If I used killmails as the measuring tool I wouldn't be flying scout and interceptor when I login (which I don't do much of lately).
I'm also tired of seeing everyone mention "CVA blobs" when we've often engaged outnumbered and I personally took a small fleet to take on 2-1 odds ages ago. We nearly pulled it off too. Hell, your quasi-intell file seems to have remembered that engagement since it was next to my name.
It's very easy to twist words and sully someones name by making it look like the words were based on something they were not and said something they didn't.
Maybe I should start to make really insane quotes, do it Mourinho style, keep the heat on myself so others who don't want to deal with it don't need to.
The 'we could have wiped you out' had nothing to do with killmails. Its just what your famous for Maj my old mucker.
I was referring to another thread. But seriously, do you want me to dig up all your quotes to see how they could be misconstrued as well?
QUOTE (Khaldorn Murino @ Jun 21 2005, 01:22 PM)I was referring to another thread. But seriously, do you want me to dig up all your quotes to see how they could be misconstrued as well?
this one is on permanent link for me for a maj classic he already hates my guts but this is his flamebait so I just have to bite, this one makes me giggle everytime...
QUOTE (Maj "Im angry" Awabalas)Respect. I respect your tenacity but I also know that we could have pretty much killed you off as an alliance when we wanted to.
I'm not being arrogant or cocky, I'm stating facts which you should know are true. Killing off a corporation or an alliance is damn hard, if we'd have kept up the pressure you'd all be flying frigates instead of Muninn's and battleships.
QUOTEIf we wanted you dead you would be. We have deemed it in our interest (as we enjoy the game) to not do that.
Thats without going into his choice quotes on how crap SF are and how l33t CVA RP is.
Actually Hak, you do realise we could wipe CVA out now if we wanted to, and they'll all be flying frigates soon.
But we aint gonna do that. Cos, you know, i dont really feel like it.
This has been the highlight of my rather crap day.
QUOTE (Khaldorn Murino @ Jun 21 2005, 01:40 PM)Actually Hak, you do realise we could wipe CVA out now if we wanted to, and they'll all be flying frigates soon.
But we aint gonna do that. Cos, you know, i dont really feel like it.
finding them in space is the challenge nowadays
perhaps we should ease the pressure before they are all flying frigates and not zealots eh?
We will allow the CVA to exist....for now
I can be like Maj too!
Oh, i know the next UNITY competition. Im gonna call it, the
'Be like Maj' Managerie.
The lads will love it.
QUOTE (Hakera @ Jun 21 2005, 01:46 PM)finding them in space is the challenge nowadays
Perhaps some of us are tired of the U'K blobs and the smaktalk. Perhaps some of us are even busy with RL.
I know I have been put off fighting you recently after 30 mins of smaktalk from the CCP event team and your own fleet.
The fact that I engaged in a single crucifer against 4 intys doesn't seem to count. I don't enjoy being called chicken in local for warping away from a BB and 2 intys while being jammed outside my lock range in the same crucifer.
I beleive Hakera was being sarcastic and taking the mick out of Maj's arrogant stance.
That was not smaktalk, that was in character jibing. There is a whole world of difference between the two, because event actors joined in, doesnt make it any less RP. We found it a great laugh. As im sure if some Amarrian event actors came over to isto and called us slave dogs and monkeys, you'd love it too.
Yes we all hate blobs, CVA blobs and UK blobs. This has been done to death.
We have to put up with people like Fenris coming over and trying to engage everyone in 1 vs 1's all the time, thats not exactly RP etc either.
Anyway, like i said, hak was taking the mickey out of maj.
QUOTE (Khaldorn Murino @ Jun 21 2005, 02:55 PM)I beleive Hakera was being sarcastic and taking the mick out of Maj's arrogant stance.
One can never tell with Hakera
QUOTE (Khaldorn Murino @ Jun 21 2005, 02:55 PM)That was not smaktalk, that was in character jibing. There is a whole world of difference between the two, because event actors joined in, doesnt make it any less RP. We found it a great laugh. As im sure if some Amarrian event actors came over to isto and called us slave dogs and monkeys, you'd love it too.
The stuff from a few pilots later on could be classified as ooc smaktalk, although mild.
QUOTE (Khaldorn Murino @ Jun 21 2005, 02:55 PM)Yes we all hate blobs, CVA blobs and UK blobs. This has been done to death.
Some people do forget that a blob is sometimes a well balanced tactial fleet manuvre. At least CVA and U'K don't bring two fleets in a 150km+ and try to kill each other
Indeed. I for one hope they get rid of the current gankaculture, but i dont see how. Longer more spacey fights would rock.
easy, make cruisers more fun to fly...and i don't mean hacs, both sides in this fight now that zealots and munins are instagank monsters. I'd love to see UK and CVA going toe to toe in mallers stabbers, ruptures and omens. With teh occasional bs. I may be misguided but i think this would be much more enjoyable.
While i was typng that i even thought of the idea of us trialling a week or two of only t1 ships....opinions? Its unrealistic as an extended ROE, who would imabine amarr's finest and their fiercest enemies flying around in carboard boxes (no sly comments about minnie ships...) but it might make for a nice break for a while. Either that or we finally get some events rolling. Not ops, joint events...i remember some very good 15-15 frigate events previously...
maybe i should just organise something
Except i am a big drunk ole loser so it prolly will fall apart real fast.
Enough self loathing, Targ out.
Sounds good to me Targ
QUOTE (Windle Poons @ Jun 21 2005, 03:50 PM)I don't enjoy being called chicken in local for warping away from a BB and 2 intys while being jammed outside my lock range in the same crucifer.
This does seem to be a common theme with U'K anymore. Come in with overwhelming firepower and call people cowards for disengaging. It doesn't even have to be a blob...just the predictable "couple o' frigates on one side of the gate, couple o' HACs on the other" trick. I guess that's proper roleplay anymore: put someone in a position where any smart guy is going to know "crap, gotta get out of this situation" and then call 'em a coward for it. Or, when they do engage anyway out of sheer dignified defiance, tell them that everything they stand for will fall to the might of terrorism just as their ship just fell. Because apparently there are viable parallels between a dozen ships blowing the crap out of a single cruiser and the Amarr empire falling to terrorist attacks.
Roleplay however you want, I guess, but I have to say that some bullshit I was subject to in amarr was the primary fuel for my fire when I led that small cruiser/frig team the other night. I was happy with the overall results, so I guess I can't complain.
QUOTE (Garreck @ Jun 21 2005, 06:17 PM)This does seem to be a common theme with U'K anymore. Come in with overwhelming firepower and call people cowards for disengaging.
sounds like perfectly reasonable roleplay to me, your defending your little empire and doing so by running away even from a superior force (yes we know that to engage will lead to almost certain death) but Amarrians arnt supposed to retreat especially not in the face of such animals like minnies
problem is your taking it personally, if you retreat - then your going to be called a coward regardless of whether it made sense or not. Maybe you arnt kamikazes like us but if the mighty amarrians or their lapdogs go and hide when we're about then your going to get abused in local.
This isn't a chivalrous war, we dont have tea with each other and make polite conversation whilst the troops die and respect and all that - we hate and loathe each other. the whole 'being nice' thing is not necessarily how everyone wants to rp. Now if you say that kind of rp is lame, rubbish etc then fair enough. But realise it is RP nontheless and you as 'defenders of the empire' will be getting it anytime your not doing your jobs (even when we fully understand to engage would mean death ooc)
We are actually liking the attention up our way for once, keep it up Garreck, Mah complimented you on a very well done kill of his ship. Keep up the good work, the more action our pilots get, the less likely they are to leave through boredom.
i hate you hakera.
QUOTE (gaulen @ Jun 21 2005, 07:15 PM)i hate you hakera.
ah when love and hate collide, good song by def leppard,
QUOTE (Hakera @ Jun 21 2005, 06:44 PM)sounds like perfectly reasonable roleplay to me
problem is your taking it personally
But realise it is RP nontheless and you as 'defenders of the empire' will be getting it anytime your not doing your jobs (even when we fully understand to engage would mean death ooc)
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Oh yes, very RP. Do you sit there and try to justify everything you do in game as RP? I try to keep some perspective and remember that there is a person at the other end.
Its a GAME Hakera, just try to remember that please, we play for fun.
QUOTE (Windle Poons @ Jun 21 2005, 10:40 PM)Its a GAME Hakera, just try to remember that please, we play for fun.
and being ingame enemies, we have fun at your expense, thats the problem I see your having here, so you picked one bad example of RP. Dont pigeonhole us all like that.
Its a GAME Windle try to remember that.