Demons in Orgrimmar!
Brothers, I am here today to tell you about an incident that came to pass last night in the mighty Orc capital of Orgrimmar. I had just arrived from a long day of fighting pirates, nagas and Venture Co. goblins, when I saw a group of people standing on and around the small mound in front of the auctionhouse. The former member of the Praetoria Imperials Excibutoris, Demiurge, nowadays a very seasoned Warlock, was standing at the top of the mound, mumbling strange and harsh incantations. The next thing I see is a huge demon bursting forth, all made of green glowing fire and stone. Needless to say I was shocked and – I am not ashamed to admit it – frightened by this fearsome sight. But the atrocities were not yet over.
The demon broke free from its „master's“ control and started to attack the bystanders. It was then that I realized to my utmost disbelief that this was what the foul warlock had intended. He claimed that he could get control over the abomination back if he wished, but he did not do it. Instead he and his companions started to wear the creature down, finally destroying it. No one was harmed, but it was apparent what this was all about: an irresponsibly conducted display of „power“ from an egocentric, sociopathic braggart and his gang!
One of the most despicable details of this whole affair was that among the warlock's eager sycophants was a Shaman... Yes, a Troll Shaman! I am as baffled as you are, my friends. As far as I can tell from what my dear friend and the Medicine Man of the Thunderhorn Tribe, wise Bor, tells me, the spirits of the ancestors would never condone such a business. And the same tells me my savant Druid friend, Morca, about the Earthmother. But this is not the issue at hand, although it is no minor detail.
When I questioned the warlock about why he had summoned a creature as vile and dangerous into a city full of innocents, he merely answered that he had felt like it. For a moment I was speechless. How could he? And how can Thrall, mighty leader of the Horde, tolerate such actions? For the guards of Orgrimmar merely stood around, poking their noses. The further my questioning of the egomaniacal warlock went the clearer it became that my words would not have any effect on him and his bootlickers. All my words about warlocks holding no real power, only tapping forces better left untouched, glanced off his autocratical shell. Moreover, he summoned another demon, a succubus, and offered me its services. Of course I did refuse, stating that I did not share his perverted likings. He just laughed and finally summoned one of the warlocks' nightmarish horses, leaving the city. His band left shortly after him.
It is sad, brothers, that my words of caution remained unheard. Only few good men supported my stance. However, this episode showed the true nature of the warlock. Power hungry, egomaniacal and autocratic, they are a danger to all living beings in this world. In fact, trusting them may open a backdoor for the demonic powers we ultimately seek to destroy or at least banish forever from this realm. So be weary, brothers and sisters, when warlocks are around. Maybe they are not all as evil as the individual I encountered, but a healthy dose of suspicion should always be there...
_edited for a nasty little false word
This post has been posted on the official RP forum, only negatively mentioned names have been removed and some stylistic amendments have been made._
Without hearing the other side of this all I can do is assume a reckless disregard on the part of Demiurge, that being said, tarring all Warlocks with the same brush is unmutal at best and foolish at worst. Yes they tap powers which are different, but so indeed do Shamans, Mages, Druids and Priests. Yes, they use dangerous creatures to do their bidding but then so do Hunters.
The universe isn’t as simple as worshiping the wind which touches your face, the fire which warms you, the water which quenches thirst, or the dirt beneath a person's feet. Nor should it be.
Now, is the suspicion of Warlocks based on a flaw with those individuals, or a personal bias from deep inside yourself? Perhaps some quiet introspection could help you answer that question.
This world does not know demons. Their power is does not belong here, for it is purely evil.
All forces inherent to this world are neither good nor bad at large. The light is balanced by the shadow (speaking for the powers of the priests), magic as it is may be destriuctive in many respects, but in itself, it is neutral, the Earthmother gives life and takes it, the spirits of the ancestors can be good and evil.
But there is no balance for the evil the demons bring to this world, and this imbalance is what I condemn. And by that the willing servants which are the warlocks.
I stated that not all warlocks may be as evil as the above mentioned. But they are still furthering the influence of the demons in this world.
I question the use of the term imbalance since demons of the nature a Warlock can summon are also neither good nor evil but act out of instinct.
As for furthering the influence of demons in this world, that, as any student of Horde history will tell you, is a slippery slope. The powers you are referring to do not concern themselves with establishing a foothold in this plane through the use of short lived magicks, but instead favour more destructive and longer lasting methods, they work to corrupt the hearts of good men and women.
A timely whisper in the ear has long proven to be more powerful than any spells or magicks or summoned monsters. It is the flicker of an idea which has been the undoing of vast empires, not any charms or spells.
It is the battle for hearts and minds you need to fight if you intend to take on what lives in the darkness beyond the visible horizon. The true monsters feed the greed, the lust for power, and the intolerance in the soul.
Concerning yourself with barely sentient creatures which happen to occupy a different plane and act as part time servants is nothing more than a distraction.
The Burning Legion is evil and defies creation. There can be no doubt about that. Warlocks are powerhungry fools and this episode strengthens my resolve to never assist them in any way.
Ask the common Orc how he feels about the Burning Legion and what happened to their people and their world. Enslaved and abused by the powers Warlocks pretend to control.
They are fools, dangerous fools - ALL of them.
I expected better.
You can't just paint every individual because of your experiences with some of them. There was a Shaman involved and some others involved too.
Does that make all Shaman immoral and worthy of disdain or just that one in particular?
The powers Warlocks tap are not, as you state 'neither good nor evil and act out of instinct' - they ARE the Burning Legion. The source of the Scourge that has put you into the Undead state you are in. The source for most of the evils and corruptions our world has to suffer from.
Twice have they invaded our world. Twice have they left but ruin in their wake. Half of Azeroth lays in ruin due to the doings of the Burning Legion. How can you rectify the tampering with these uncontrollable forces? Have you visited Dalaran lately? The city is not shielded to prevent us from getting in - it is shielded to prevent the demonic forces that were foolishly summoned to get out. Have you visited the Plaguelands lately? Have you spent thought on what Lordaeron was once like before the Scourge was unleashed?
I expected more.
You should keep your opinions to yourself Tauren. His "gang" of which i consisted, were there to prevent the infernal from causing damage. It was merely a party trick.
Incidently, how dare you come to Orgrimmar and insult every Orc and his brother? You'll be promptly shown the front gate in future.
Wise are the words the Medicine Man speaks.
I will answer your argument about the involvement of the Shaman. As I stated earlier, the shamanistic ways are balanced, there are good and evil ones. And in this incident I happened to stumble over an evil one. I have yet to see a good demon, though.
Apart from that I'd like to relay here that the leader of the guild nowadays harbouring our former comrade Demiurge, the Storm Wolf Clan, has officially apologized for the warlock's misconduct (see here).
So you admit that you endangered your own capital for the sake of a party trick? I am lost for words... and I believ there is nothing to say to that, the meaningfulness of this is as obvious as it can get. My point related to the gang has been well proven.
turns his back on Wrekaar
Hah! This 'Demiurge' has shown himself to be as weak as the vast majority of the warlocks I see on this world. They are all so consumed with their miserable lust for power that they cannot even see their own souls being sucked back into the Twisted Nether with their little pets. A true warlock wields his power not like a five year old child with a bar of chocolate, but as a learned sage who knows not only the power that he wields but when as well.
((Speaking as Eleste))
I am offended and frankly hurt by your ignorance Tauren. I realise now that you regard me and my fellow warlocks with distrust when once I thought I was considered friend.
I enslave the powers of the shadows for the good of the Horde and PI, just as you manipulate and twist the powers of nature for your own causes.
Perhaps I should thank the foolish actions of this weak willed warlock for opening my eyes to how I am perceived by many of my so called friends!
The city was far from endangered, the correct protocols had been taken to destroy the infernal if it were to break loose of its Warlock command.
Incidently, who are you to chose the path we follow. You're just as tainted, following the Earthmother, your non existant god.
You're almost as pretenious as our forsaken brethren
I believe I have never hidden my feelings towards warlocks. I may yet come to learn friendship to the indivdual Eleste, but I will never be a friend of the warlock Eleste. I did not aim at hurting you. If I did, I apologise. But as steadfast as the mountains is my belief that the powers of the Burning Legion shold be untouched.
Although I turned my back on you which means that you have no honour and are not to be spoken with again, an insult of this magnitude has to be answered. And the answer should be simple enough for you: You cannot deny the Earthmother since she is everywhere. You are standing on her, you are breathing her, you can feel her in every leaf you touch. smiles to himself But this I am sure a Druid or Shaman can explain to you in more depth and accuracy... You are leading a poor life when you are not feeling the Earthmother...
You don't get to give me a lesson on the Legion or the Scourge Bor, I know both better than you can ever hope to.
And I know that what Warlocks summon are not held in thrall by the Burning Legion.
The power of the Legion cannot be bent to a mortals will. The abyss is the most destructive force in the universe, not something which can be summoned up with silly words and gestures in order to scare the sheep. There isn't one amongst the living who can stand against that hurricane.
You are either ill informed to believe that servants of the Legion would ever allow any Warlock who can speak a few words to control them, or am I dealing with someone who hears thunder and believes it's a "sign" from some power?
The idea that this is the Burning Legion is nothing more than a rhetorical silverleaf covering an argument which amounts to nothing but scaremongering.
The Titans shaped this world, the mountains, the seas, the trees. Beings of great power, unlike the invisable earthmother.
Yo' no' considered dat dis Earthmother be one of de Titans mebbe? Shio has seen de work of dese titans at first hand, in de depths of Uldaman. Go der, frien's, den come back wid yo' answers...
It is not just Warlocks that are prone to dangerous displays of magical prowess. Many times I have seen Mages flaunting their mastery of the arcane arts by showering the citizens of Orgrimmar with fire and ice. However, it would seem that we continue to forget that it is not the magical art itself but the individual who wields it that should be held responsible. A wise Mage or Warlock is a powerful and valuable ally, but any magics used as irresponsibly as this are a danger to the world.
When Demiurge was with us many of us could see the selfish greed and hunger for power within him, and this latest stunt does not surprise me. Sadly there seem to be many Warlocks who choose to follow in his dark footsteps, drawn by the desire for power and control over forces they do not truly understand. However, we are fortunate to have among us those who treat the demonic arts with the respect that they demand, and it is vital that we do not tar them with the same brush.
There is balance within the general scheme of life, and it is not the magics themselves that are at fault but those who wield them. Responsibility is key, and it is those who abuse their powers who should be dealt with.
((ooc: Fab thread guys, keeping me nicely entertained on a dull Friday afternoon Wish I'd been there last night, must have been fun ))
In life and in death i have walked with demons. I have called upon their aid and i have torn assunder mens souls, condemning them forever to eternal torment. I know what it is to gaze upon the twisted nether, to comprehend the nightmarish evil that lies beyond our mortal realm. Belief me when i tell you that you would tear your own eyes from their sockets and beg for insanity before you would allow your mind to comprehend the true horror of what it is you see.
I speak then with some authority on the matter, and you would do well to heed my words. And i tell you this.
That warlocks are power hungry, egomaniacal, autocratic and a danger to all living beings in this world cannot be denied. I will certainly not deny it. In my time i have wrought such evil that the burning legion itself would weep with pity for those that have fallen at my hand. Raindancer’s counsel to exercise caution in the presence of a warlock is wise.
Consumed with hatred for life, scarred by insanity and driven by the desire for power are all marks of a warlock, but their power is based more in fear than fact. To liken these necromancers to the armies of hell that would feast upon the flesh of your loved ones and trample the skulls of your children is a flattering but undeserved compliment.
The demons you saw were mere minions, servants. They are nothing to the true horrors of the burning legion. What is more, there are many warlocks that seek to control the demonic forces that face us. Warlocks such as I. Should such talents be overlooked in the battle against The Burning Legion’s demonic forces? I think not.
Since i awoke from my centuries old sleep, my powers are slowly returning. Once again I am tormented with rage at all that is alive, but i am able to resist and that should comfort you. I am overwhelmed by a higher calling, a desire for peace and a desire to atone for my past wrongs.
You have an unprecedented opportunity before you. You can embrace me as an ally or you can fear me and deny me my desire for atonement. Choose wisely my friends, for to dismiss me as nothing more than a 'fool' would be very disappointing and most unwise.
You are not the only one tormented with their transition, dearest Corposant.
A word to the wise, however - no thinly veiled undertones; Allied incursions are frequent enough, without having to watch over ones shoulder.
The hour is late, I will speak no further of this.